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Y'all know it's Duke, it's going to be Duke, I don't even have to say anything.
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It's just about how much are we going to win by?
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I pick them like a pro global triumph ball.
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Talk a big and roll.
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We're going to up the score Touchdown.
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This is not a field goal.
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We, the winning team champions.
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When you walk through the hall, you can play your best with us, because you know we're going to win them all.
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Yeah.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
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Davis, and who are we?
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We got everybody here, man, how you guys doing.
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Doing great.
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Got a Duke Final Four game tomorrow Ready for the road to the championship Okay.
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For your sake.
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Okay, well, let's go ahead and get into it.
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We got a fire show today.
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We are going to talk about, of course, final Four, final four, right.
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So we got the men's final four, women's final four.
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We're going to talk about cooper flag.
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Since you know we are here coming at you from cary, north carolina.
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We uh have to talk about cooper flag and duke his place in duke history if they win this championship.
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Where does he rank amongst the greats?
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We'll talk about that.
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Uh, we'll go into the nba.
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Oh man, we had.
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We had a.
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There was a game between the LA Lakers and the Golden State Warriors last night.
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Did you guys happen to see that game?
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I definitely did.
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I did.
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Yeah, it was a little rough.
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A little rough, ok, and anybody Laker fans or LeBron fans, ok, all right.
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I'm a LeBron fan, but fortunately there's a guy we traded for that decided to foul bait instead of passing the ball to the two guys that were hot on the team.
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So you know, we'll see how that one goes there's a guy named Anthony Davis who's playing well for the Mavericks right now.
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Yeah, he is he's playing very well.
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Too bad they don't have Kyrie.
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It would be very interesting they.
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They have a five-game win streak, I think, oh my goodness, yeah, they're heating up a little bit.
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Yeah, they are.
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It would be very interesting, but this should be in the play-in, so who knows what noise they make?
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That would be hilarious, kyrie Blackham.
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Yeah, let's not be too deep into it.
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It.
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Duke hospital is not that good.
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So we also will go into the NFL.
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We're excited about that.
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We'll talk about the Carolina Panthers.
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They are who they should take with the number eight pick.
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We will end the show with all of our NFL topics.
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We'll talk about Aaron Rodgers and a whole lot of other stuff.
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So super excited, all right.
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Well, let's get into it.
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Let's get into our first topic here.
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All right, cooper Flagg, get into it.
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Let's get into our first topic here.
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All right, cooper flag and Duke.
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So, fellas, where will Cooper fly?
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Let's go ahead and assume Duke wins the championship.
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All right, diego, duke wins the championship.
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Where do you put Cooper flag?
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Is it no brainer?
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Top five, just go ahead and take this one man.
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Obviously top five Duke players.
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If they win the championship he might be the best ever.
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It's hard to put him over guys like Grant Hill, christian Laettner and Bobby Hurley, because they're some of the main guys on a team with two championships.
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He's going to leave after this year, so he'd just have one.
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I'm going to say number three after Leitner and Grant Hill, but ahead of Bobby Hurley, if they win.
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Okay, if he becomes one of the top NBA players, face-to-face the league, that could get him higher, but just right after this year I'd have to put him at three.
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I would say it would be three as well, but it would be a 3A and 3B between him and JJ, because again what he meant to.
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Duke and also I'm not putting him over Grant Hill or Christian Leighton.
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I'm sorry, that's a little too much, a little too rich for my blood.
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You feel me, but again, what JJ did did as, again, one of the better players in the acc and again, with our reputation of having players who are a bit not liked is the most friendly word to say that.
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But yeah, I did love his rashness and how he played, so I would definitely say that would be how I rank it okay, okay, yeah, and brand, I did see your comment there about, uh, j williams.
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you can't forget him.
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J williams is one of the one of the greats, for sure, jj Redick, that was good for you to mention him, jay didn't win one, though, so I think that's that's what I'd say yeah, yeah, but then a lot.
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And you alluded to this, diego, what you do after Duke also says a lot.
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So if, if Cooper Flagg goes on to become the face of the NBA, that gives him a whole lot of credit coming back and that can then elevate.
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You know, hey, let's put okay.
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So let's put Coach K in this, all right, because, would you guys say, maybe silly question, would you say, coach K is number one just as far as aura legacy.
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Yes, Okay, that's for sure.
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Number one just as far as aura legacy?
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Yes, for sure.
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Okay, so Coach K is this?
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So maybe a better question might be all right, 10 years from now?
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Okay, I don't know Coach K.
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You know still, you know here and everything still has his aura.
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But Cooper Flagg is the face of the NBA, unquestioned face of the NBA.
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Who has the most aura on campus?
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On unquestioned face of the NBA who has the most aura on campus.
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It's still OK because for me.
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I'm always a lineage person Like it's the house that the place has been built.
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Yeah.
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So, as much as I love Cooper, coach K is the reason why, like Cooper, would even want to go to Duke and want to even play for the team.
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Yeah, that's what I would say OK so yeah, I'm sorry.
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Mike Chizanski is always going to be good money with me.
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I'm sorry, I agree.
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It will be closer than a lot of people would think, with him doing that.
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Actually, a lot of people from Duke of Cone's NBA have been bust Marvin Bagley and some other guys.
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Cooper, if he ends up becoming that guy, it will be very close, maybe even tied.
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Now, okay, you know what this just hit me.
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But this is where, again, my age and experience comes into play.
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It would be Cooper flagging.
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It wouldn't even be close.
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All right, I have a great example for you.
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Michael Jordan, okay, you, michael Jordan.
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Okay, when Michael Jordan left Carolina, he wasn't Michael Jordan, dean Smith was everything to Carolina and Dean Smith continued to have crazy org.
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It was called the Dean Dome.
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Was it the Dean Dome when he was still coaching?
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Like it was crazy.
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Dean Smith just had all the org, but Michael Jordan Dean Dome Was it the Dean Dome when he was still coaching?
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It was crazy.
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Dean Smith just had all the aura, but Michael Jordan becoming Michael Jordan after the fact he had so much to where there was no bigger figure than Jordan.
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So we are a very recency-biased society and whatnot.
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So, as great as his aura will always be, if Flagg goes on to do the things that some of us think, you won't even be able to touch it, jordan became the greatest player ever.
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If Cooper ends up becoming the greatest player ever, sure.
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But if he's just a face of the NBA, but still really good, it's tied, but if everyone knows he's going to be the greatest player ever, then sure yeah, it's not a debate.
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We just said that Cooper Flagg might be the greatest player ever.
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I mean, I wouldn't put it past him.
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Okay, all righty, got like maybe 20 or 30 people before.
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Let him get in the league first, man let's not Let him get in the league first.
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That's fair.
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I see the lead, that's fair.
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I see flashes.
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That's fair, you see flashes.
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Okay, as a lebron fan on here, I feel like that's just last one's for mj.
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Like guys put the brakes you know what, though, and we'll we'll get to the men's final four in a second, but to stay on.
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It's going to be so fun for me, as I get older, to watch all the LeBron people hate on the next generation of who comes up.
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It's going to be so funny to hear the LeBron, whoever debate.
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It's going to be very similar to the Jordan-LeBron debate now.
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It's going to be so fun to hear all the people that are delusional about LeBron, and this is the thing that's going to really make you mad, because what's going to happen is like you have to have lived through errors to really know who people are right.
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So, like Jordan, you can go to YouTube and stuff like that, but it doesn't really do it justice, because you had to have lived through the magnitude of a huge game, six and all that to really get what he did.
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Yeah, it's going to be the same thing with LeBron, because we all know LeBron is great, right, there's no as much as you know me and Diego troll and whatnot.
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We know LeBron is great, greatest.
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You know, one of the greatest of all times.
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But when you look at like skill wise, right, just imagine is, especially with how long he plays, could you imagine the next generation going back and looking at youtube highlights of lebron and going, okay, well he, he just played for 25 years, but was he really all that?
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yeah, he passed it he really he wasn't a great shooter.
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He wasn't.
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It's like I can all I can already hear all the arguments and then you'll be losing your mind because you'll be like, no, you can't just go to youtube, you had to have lived through it and it's gonna be the same thing a lot of people discredit like jordan because he played so far back a lot of a lot of people now are like oh well, people back then were trash, yeah, like yeah that's gonna be fun to see I
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already resigned to Wemmy and Jokic killing the game.
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Oh you know Wemmy's going to listen.
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I'm already like hey, it's going to happen with one of those two.
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I'm just waiting for everything to fully develop between those two careers.
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Yeah for sure.
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All right, well, that was fun, man.
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Well, let's move on to men's Final Four here and let's talk about, within this year, nil.
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Alright, so NIL, we've got four number one seeds here for the men.
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We've got Florida and Auburn playing.
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So the men play tomorrow, women play tonight.
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Can't wait for that Matter of fact.
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They just tipped off First game, just tipped off at 7 pm Eastern here.
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So, yes, yep, so can't wait for that.
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But we've got Florida and Auburn playing first, and then we have Duke and Houston, oh man, and we're going to bring Breon in a second and we're going to talk about those games.
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But, diego, what's your take on NIL?
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Has it eliminated mid-majors from competing anymore in college?
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I think mid-majors will still be able to compete in the tournament and get a few wins.
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But as far as Final Four making deep runs, like like some teams in the past that might be over, like that might not be as common they will be able to win a game or two but not go as far as they have in years past.
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I think okay I would say, like for mid-majors, you're gonna need veteran squads who are, like you know, at least proven at this point, because, again, you're not going to be able to attract, like all these like high profile, like high school players.
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So that's going to be, you know, the difficult thing.
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But if you're a team, that's you know, then like gone through a bunch of stuff and you're still like are going to keep pushing, that's what I think is going to happen.
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But I, uh, it's.
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I'm looking at all these onesies, I'm like this is crazy.
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Yes, yes, and everybody who picked the brackets are like oh well, you know we went against our conventions, you know we were trying to pick upsets and it's like you know it felt feels inevitable at this point is.
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That's kind of what's alarming about the change in basketball and football as well yeah, and it has happened before.
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you know, we've had four number one seeds make it to the Final Four, so not the first time.
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So is it more of a fluke or is this how it's going to be?
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But yeah, the mid-majors will definitely have to have players that are more seasoned, but the thing is, once they then show out, they can enter the portal and then they're losing those guys.
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So that's kind of the argument the experienced guys are going to want to go where they get the most money because they know they're not going to nba right away, so they're trying to get as much money in college as possible.
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Yeah, yeah, so that that's definitely going to be tough for the uh, the mid-majors to keep these guys for sure.
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So, with all the money being there, yeah, definitely, definitely.
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Okay, brandon, and said brandon says might be unpopular, unpopular, take, but you root for the big programs in Kansas.
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Ok, better for college, ok, all right, brandon, yeah, you have to expound on that a little more when we have you on at the end.
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So, yeah, curious to hear a little more about that, all right, well, let's bring Brie on and let's actually dive into who we've got for these final four picks here.
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What's going on, brie?
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Hi, not much.
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All right, all right, well, good to see you, as always.
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So yeah, we're here with the men's final four.
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They're in San Antonio.
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We had all number one seeds here and, man, I believe, I believe somebody actually picked all the number one seeds, that was me.
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Man that was definitely me.
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So I know I did.
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Now did you as well.
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I said on the King show I changed it to Michigan State.
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On my bracket I have all one seeds.
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Oh, that's questionable.
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You can check it.
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So you got one.
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So that sounds like you hedged your bet there.
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I did, but like what?
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But what's written on my bracket, that's the one that matters, that's the moneymaker.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I think I would go by what you said at Kings.
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Yeah, I think so.
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You think so?
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Watch when.
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I win the bracket.
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What do you think, Bree?
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Do we need to go about what he said at kings?
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Yeah yeah, I think so.
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I think we need to go about that, all right.
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So, brie, uh, let's go with these uh matchups here.
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So we've got florida auburn.
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Does auburn have any chance against florida?
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uh, yeah, they're gonna to beat Florida.
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What.
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What?
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Yes, I have Auburn winning it all.
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Oh man, all right, okay, you got them winning it all.
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Yeah, I feel a little risky, but I like this.
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Yes, yes, now you know they have to be probably the most.
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I don't know if I should say disrespected, they are seasoned, but they have to be the most.
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I don't know if I should say disrespected, they are seasoned.