July 7, 2024

Klay to Mavericks, Bronny's Summer Struggles, & NBA Playoff Predictions | Pick'em Pros πŸŽ™πŸ€

Klay to Mavericks, Bronny's Summer Struggles, & NBA Playoff Predictions | Pick'em Pros πŸŽ™πŸ€

Bronny James' underwhelming summer league debutβ€”could it spell trouble for his NBA future? Join Derrick and Diego Thompson, the Pick'em Pros, as we dive into the pressing questions of the NBA’s offseason and its potential ripple effects. From the Golden State Warriors' questionable roster changes to Klay Thompson's surprising move to the Dallas Mavericks, we leave no stone unturned. With insights from special guest Professor Lou Thompson, we explore how these developments could reshape the league's competitive landscape and alter the championship outlook for teams like the Warriors and Mavericks.

But that’s not all; our spirited debate continues as we analyze the Mavericks' rebuilding plan with Klay Thompson and its implications for stars like Kyrie Irving under Jason Kidd's leadership. Diego dishes out his Eastern Conference playoff predictions, providing a comprehensive breakdown from the Chicago Bulls to the top-seeded contenders. Our deep dive into team prospects, potential roster shifts, and strategic moves offers fans a compelling look at what to expect in the upcoming season.

Later, we shift gears to the exciting world of sports card collecting, a passion with over 25 years in the making. We share our personal stories, tips for maintaining card value, and the thrill of discovering rare finds. From cracking packs to the emotional joy of sharing this hobby with family, we capture the essence of what makes sports memorabilia special. As we wrap up, we tantalize your taste buds with plans for a prime barbecue and wish everyone a fantastic July 4th weekend, promising more engaging content in the next episode!

Chapters

00:01 - NBA Summer League and Offseason

13:21 - Mavs Rebuilding With Klay Thompson

28:16 - NBA Playoff Predictions and Analysis

42:51 - Sport Cards Collection and Trading

51:33 - Collecting and Trading Sports Cards

56:14 - Mystery Pack Collecting and Trading

01:04:23 - Family BBQ Plans & Farewells

Transcript
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all right.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.

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You know who it is, I am derrick thompson and I'm diego thompson who are we?

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We're the pick'em pros we are the pick'em pros coming back at you in the house with episode 101 of who you got father son dynamic duo, where we are man wrapping up nba.

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We had our champion a few weeks back, free agencies wrapping up and we just got one final show to dive into NBA before we move over to football.

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But how you doing, man?

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Doing good.

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Man.

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Just know how the seeing is going to go, and I'm going to tell everyone how they're going to go, man.

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You're going to tell us, nine months ahead of time, exactly where every NBA team is going to finish at the end of the 24-25 season.

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You're going to do that.

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Yep, yep, I'm going to do the exact, exact order, all right.

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And the exact order.

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All right, we're going to see.

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I'm excited to hear what you've got.

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You're going to share that.

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We've got a fire show what up?

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Silas, thanks for joining us.

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My man, silas, is the only person that has this hoodie as well.

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So some new swag that we got out here.

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But, yeah, we got a fire show for you.

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We're going to talk about Ronnie James.

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Oh yeah, his debut in the summer league, the four-point outing that he just had.

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We're going to dive into that.

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Uh, very similar to, uh, how college and everything was.

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We're going to dive into that.

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We're going to dive into the golden state warriors what's up?

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Brandon and silas.

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So, hey, we got the warriors, people, we got to talk about the warriors.

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Was that a?

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Has it been a good off season?

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Has it been a terrible off season somewhere in between?

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Been a terrible offseason Somewhere in between?

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We've got to go into that.

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So we're going to talk about that.

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We're going to talk about Clay and the Dallas Mavs.

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Is Clay the difference?

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Is he the reason why the Mavs?

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Are they going to win the championship?

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Now We've got my dad, your grandpa, the professor, mr Luke Thompson, is going to join us for that segment and school us on the Dallas Mavericks and Clay Thompson.

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They were going to go into you, diego, giving us your seeds, one through 10 for the east and the west, and then we're going to finish up.

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We've got a really cool segment to finish up as we are about to get into the trading card game.

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Here are about to get into the trading card game.

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Here We've got Mr Rob Martin who is going to school us a little bit on the trading cards and the mystery cards and all that.

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We're going to talk about that as we wrap up.

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So we've got a fire show.

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Big shout out to Zaxby's of Clayton, north Carolina, one of our sponsors.

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We appreciate you and we're going to get on into this man.

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You ready to do it?

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Yeah, I get on into this.

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Man you ready to do it?

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yeah, I'm ready, man, let's do it all right, all right, well, let's not, let's not waste any time.

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What's up shivan?

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What's up avi?

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Uh, the homies on, uh, ig, we see you there, all right, man.

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So let's get on into it.

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Man, let's not waste any time.

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Let's get into brani james.

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The game just ended.

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Hey, man, give us your take on the uh, big debut against the um.

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Give us your take on the big debut against the Sacramento.

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I think it was in.

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Sacramento.

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Yeah, tell us about it, man.

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All right, I think it was a little underwhelming the four points, two rebounds, two assists and 22 minutes.

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It was inefficient.

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From the field.

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Two of nine.

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From the field.

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Two of nine from the field, oh, of three from three.

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Point.

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Um, I expected him to be a little off today.

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Anyway, I expected everybody to be a little off because it was their first time in an nba jersey, so an nba court.

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So there was that.

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But uh, still, I think his performance wasn't, was below expectations.

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He had the layup and he had the nice jump shot, but that was about it.

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Everything else was not Exactly how it's been.

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If you've seen him play in high school and see him play in college, he plays somewhat tight defense.

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I think his defense has been a little overblown, um, by people.

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If you've actually seen him play, yeah, but he doesn't handle the ball, he doesn't bring the ball up the court, just kind of stands in the corner, gets the ball quickly, kicks it out and is just waiting and hoping that his defender leaves him so he can get a shot off.

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Yeah, that's really it and that's not a creator.

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Yeah, yeah, the the entire time.

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So people kind of lost their mind during the combine when he made a few floaters, um, that was.

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You know, those were like that was every highlight.

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They talked about how athletic, athletic he was, but, um, yeah, it was more of the same.

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Nothing stood out.

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But what was interesting to me was as soon as I went to ESPN.

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If you go to ESPN dot com right now, there's a highlight of the layup and they're talking about the feel and if you didn't watch the game you would say, oh, ok, ok, opening game.

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Hey, he had flashes, he's athletic, he's going to be just fine.

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So it's really interesting how it's being covered.

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Yeah, my bad.

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I went to ESPN.

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The first thing that came up with the video was like Bronny scores first points in summer league, bronny with a tough shot.

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Yeah, you realize, that was really it.

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Yeah, exactly Exactly.

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And you, you know, we really made sure that we watched so we could, you know, pick up on every single thing.

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So there's definitely a big media slant.

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You know, because we watched it and it was in the showcase, so it he's being covered like the player.

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I think we're all guilty of this.

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You know how you go to, especially like if you're a golfer or if you're training, and you go out to the park or you go and play and you have a bunch of bad shots, but you've got a clip of that one good shot and of course, that's what you post.

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Yeah, everybody loses their mind.

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Hey, I used to do that with you.

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We go to the golf course when you were three and you swing a hundred times and you'd miss 99 of them, and you have one shot that looked good and I post that and everyone goes oh my gosh, diego's an amazing golfer, because all they saw was that one.

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Everyone goes.

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Oh my gosh Diego's an amazing golfer, because all they saw was that one shot.

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You know what I mean.

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So it's pretty funny there.

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So, yeah, man, yeah, that's definitely how he's being covered.

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So I'm seeing in the comments so okay, derozan is meeting with the Kings.

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Okay, so yeah, that'll be a big thing.

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I'm just kind of following the comments.

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They're talking about uh DeRozan, cause he's the final, uh big frigate that hasn't gone anywhere yet.

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Yeah, yeah, it'll be.

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Uh, I think he'd be a good fit with the Lakers, but, um, yeah, it looks like there's been All right.

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Well, let's move to the Warriors.

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Man, because I really want to get into this and we've got a lot of Warriors diehard fans on the line here and that I see you in the background.

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Looks like everything's settled.

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So we get to the next topic.

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We'll bring you on here, but for the Golden State Warriors.

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So, man, give me your take.

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Man, has it been a good offseason or a bad offseason?

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Clearly you lost clay, but, uh, just give, give me your, give me your take on this.

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And, of course, my warriors fans.

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Uh, chime in and let us know what you think I think it's been a good offseason.

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I don't think it's been a great offseason, but I think it's been good because we got rid of clay.

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That was the one thing I said we needed to do, because he was just wasn't the best fit for the team.

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He wasn't consistent.

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He was 0 for 10 in the elimination game.

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And.

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I just think he needed a change of scenery and you know, the off-the-bench stuff might have been messing with his head.

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So a change of scenery would probably be good for him and I think him leaving at this point in his career is probably good for us.

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And we got Buddy Heal and Buddy Heal leaving at this point in his career is probably good for us, and we got buddy heel and, um, buddy heel.

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I think he's a good replacement because he's gonna be willing to come off the bench, he's gonna.

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He's.

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He's a better, better and more consistent three-point shooter than clay.

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He's reliable.

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You know he can get 15, 20 points uh shoot 50, uh shoot 40 from three.

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And yeah, I just think it was a better fit keeping well, of course, keeping Steph, but have the young core evolving in the next year.

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I think it's been pretty good, you know pretty good.

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Okay, okay.

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So, man, to Diego Silas, brandon, all my Warriors fans, man, you know I got much love for you guys but, man, this has been a terrible offseason for the Golden State Warriors and I'm going to tell you why.

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Yes, buddy Hill, buddy is a good fit.

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Okay.

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And some of the other pieces are decent, but it makes them no better than if they had Clay.

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I think it does, if you look at our roster.

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we have 10 good players on our team that can play, but just stay with me, though.

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What it does for you is it puts you in no man's land.

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What it does for you is it puts you in no man's land, right?

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I'd rather if it was going to be like this.

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I'd rather you just keep Clay and just be Unhappy, inconsistent 0 for 10.

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Elimination game Clay.

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Just be mediocre.

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Okay, finish playing maybe sixth, fifth and that'd be about it.

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Okay, and again, you got solid players, but nothing to move the needle.

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Okay, go, golden state warriors are going to be playing at best no, we're.

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They're better than playing.

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They're better than playing.

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You think they're better than?

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playing.

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Okay, yes, so chime in in the comments and tell us Because, again, the moves that they made were decent moves, but I think it just puts them in no man's land, to where they're just going to be stuck.

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Oh, and they got Kyle Anderson.

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I forgot about that.

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Wow, kyle.

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Anderson Slow-mo, the guy that you couldn't stand when he was with Minnesota.

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He's a good fit.

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That takes 30 minutes to shoot a jump shot.

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Now you're happy that he's with your team.

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Is that what you're telling me?

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He's a good fit for the team.

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I like Kyle Anderson on our team.

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So now you like Kyle Anderson?

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Okay, yeah, he's my guy now.

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I don't care how long he takes to shoot his jump shot, it's okay.

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He doesn't need to shoot jump shots.

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He's a good basketball player so.

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But hilarious comment from my wife talking about my warriors has put you in no man's land.

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So that's that's the comment of the day.

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For sure don't know if anybody can top that.

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Love you, baby.

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But but again they've made decent moves.

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But okay, tell me in the comments do the Warriors have any chance to be a top seed?

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Do they have any chance to win the championship?

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So it's not me hating, it's just.

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If they were, going to be.

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If they got DeRozan or if they got Paul George, I think they'd have a chance to win the championship.

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That's what I'm saying.

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So then I'm fine with that.

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If they were going to get a big time player, ok and have a chance, then yes.

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But if they were not going to do that, then just ride it out and just have tribute videos all the time and let's hold hands and let's just be happy of what we, what we accomplished.

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But I feel like this middle ground is the worst thing that the warriors could do, and it's just going to set them up, uh, for just a lot of, a lot of disappointment is what I feel, yeah, as long as steph has the best chance to win possible, then I'm, I'm good and and again.

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I'm not hating, but how old is steph?

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now he's 36, but he's he's great, he's improved.

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Did you see the videos?

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Him training and the us team being on that team?

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That's gonna keep him ready for the play in the next year, next nba.

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You know all right, all right, all right you ready.

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Hey, I hope, I hope for your sake, you know, I mean, I hope for my wife's sake, I hope yeah, I hope your chicago bulls get better too.

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Oh my god hey, chicago bull, that's a totally different, totally different scenario.

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Yeah, I go bulls.

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Chicago bulls are going down a very bad road.

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Uh, you actually have them rated higher than I do.

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You know what I?

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Mean, but yes, the east isn't isn't that deep I don't like.

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I wish they would have gone for the gusto.

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If again, if you're not gonna throw money at clay, then really get a big time guy and let's go for it.

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But these moves here, they just uh okay all right I think it's better than we're going to be, better than we were last year, which is which we were better than we were last year.

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We have a chance.

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I don't.

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We got Paul George Then we don't think we win last year.

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I don't think you're better than last year.

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I like you.

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A lot of Warriors games.

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I know the guys on our roster.

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I know we got it.

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Yeah, yeah, all right, we're going to see Again.

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I hope for your sake, I hope for Silas' sake.

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I will happily be wrong on this.

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I will happily be wrong on this because I love the Warriors, but I just don't feel good about it.

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I love the comments, I just don't feel good about it.

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I love the comments, I just don't feel good about it.

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Man, and again, Silas, you are a little better, but it doesn't move the needle.

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It does a little bit.

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Had Clay we were a team that relied on Clay and he shot 0 for 10 in the elimination game.

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Zero points, yeah.

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Yeah, I just don't see it Again.

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You're a little better.

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Maybe it gets you a notch, but I just don't see it being worth it.

00:14:14.111 --> 00:14:15.721
I don't see it being worth it Again.

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Steph's older.

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Draymond's crankier.

00:14:18.344 --> 00:14:19.788
Draymond's older.

00:14:20.059 --> 00:14:23.322
I said I didn't mean to get rid of Draymond Draymond's losing athleticism.

00:14:23.322 --> 00:14:23.601
Oh Draymond.

00:14:23.621 --> 00:14:24.822
Draymond's losing athleticism by the minute.

00:14:24.822 --> 00:14:27.725
Oh, draymond ain't going nowhere, draymond ain't going nowhere.

00:14:27.745 --> 00:14:31.990
Draymond, we got rid of Klay, so that's fine, we got rid of one of them.

00:14:32.471 --> 00:14:42.984
Draymond is the kid that graduated high school and is cool with that, and now he's sitting in your house eating up all your food and is not getting a job.

00:14:42.984 --> 00:14:48.490
Draymond is just fine and he knows he's not going to get kicked out, so Draymond is fine.

00:14:48.951 --> 00:14:50.033
Yeah, he's just fine.

00:14:50.033 --> 00:14:51.153
Draymond is going nowhere.

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All right, man.

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Well, hey, thanks for the comments on this Good topic, but let's move on, man, we'll see what the Warriors do.

00:15:01.743 --> 00:15:12.676
Let's move on to the Mavs and Klay Thompson and see, speaking of Klay, is Klay going to be the difference for the Mavs taking the jump and winning the title?

00:15:12.676 --> 00:15:13.842
So let's see about that.

00:15:13.842 --> 00:15:17.532
Let's go ahead and bring on dad here.

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Mr Lou Thompson, now can you hear us?

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I can hear you.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes, yes, yes, we can.

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We have some technical difficulties in the sound check, but thankfully you were early and we were able to do sound check and we were able to get that fixed.

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So it looks like we're in good shape.

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Nice, ok, you ready for me?

00:15:36.971 --> 00:15:40.470
Yeah, yeah, so let us, let us tee it up for you.

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So we were having a spirited debate here on the Warriors.

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You know if they're better or worse, it seems like they're a little better.

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I'm in the minority because I think the little bit that they've gotten better really isn't going to make a difference.

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And you know, feel that.

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You know it's great for Klay to move on.

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So Klay has moved on.

00:16:00.826 --> 00:16:03.731
He's moved on to Dallas, big D, your town.

00:16:03.731 --> 00:16:06.744
That's where you're coming from, representing Dallas.

00:16:06.744 --> 00:16:17.072
So we want to ask you, professor Thompson is Clay Thompson going to put you over the hump and give Dallas a title this year?

00:16:18.701 --> 00:16:24.253
Well, he's going to be a piece of a puzzle that's going to help us solve.

00:16:24.253 --> 00:16:26.260
A piece of the puzzle that's going to help us solve.

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I'm glad you brought that up, because this is the newspaper today and we have what we call creative thinking OK, new term, that is design thinking how the general manager is retooling the Dallas Mavericks without selling the team and the youthiness of the team.

00:16:46.736 --> 00:16:49.817
That's kind of the theme that we have here.

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But we are glad to have Clay.

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We think that Clay can be valuable.

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His dad did not want him to come to Dallas.

00:17:01.264 --> 00:17:04.347
You know his dad won two NBA titles.

00:17:04.347 --> 00:17:07.067
You got a chance to meet his dad One time.

00:17:07.067 --> 00:17:10.549
I snuck you out the house, took you to a game.

00:17:10.549 --> 00:17:13.021
Okay, you met Bill Cartwright the same night.

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But his dad right now has peace of mind and he's going to go along with his program.

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He says Clay is 34 years old.

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I know you all said 36, but I read 34, so he's one or the other.

00:17:30.401 --> 00:17:31.444
We were talking about Steph.

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We're talking about Steph Curry.

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Steph is 36.

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Okay.

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So his dad is going to live with his decision and wishes him the best.

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Everybody has to make their own decision.

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Looking at him coming to the Mavericks, I think he really wanted to go to the Lakers.

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He grew up a Laker fan, he was a fan of Kobe and whatnot, but you know we got Kyrie Irving and you know Kyrie did play with LeBron and we got a great coach here, and so I think having Jason Kidd as the coach and having Kyrie talk to Clay to actually come and be a part of the Dallas Mavericks Because he's just one part of the pieces that we are using to retool the Dallas Mavericks- OK, all right.

00:18:31.464 --> 00:18:31.986
I like that.

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What's your?

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I've got several thoughts on this.

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One thing that I want comments just to kind of pick up on the Warriors real quick is Silas Brandon.

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All you guys Tell me what seed are the Warriors.

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Real quick is Silas Brandon, all you guys tell me what seed are the Warriors going to finish in?

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Because you're saying they're better.

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Give me a seed.

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Where are they going to finish?

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And they may get Laurie Markkinen.

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He was an all-star last year, who he was an all-star, laurie Markkinen.

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Who is he?

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I've never.

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Averaging 24-10 for Utah.

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For Utah yeah, 24 and 10 still okay.

00:19:09.916 --> 00:19:11.942
24 and 10 okay, all right, all right.

00:19:11.942 --> 00:19:15.612
Well, I want to know, what I want to know what seed they're gonna finish.

00:19:15.612 --> 00:19:21.461
But before we get to that and they're starting to come in the comments, diego, give us your take and we're gonna come back to that here.

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Give us your take on the Mavs and Klay.

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I think they're about still where they were.

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I think Klay is a good piece to the team, but the rest of the Western Conference has gotten better too.

00:19:35.191 --> 00:19:37.692
I still think the Nuggets are really good.

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I still think the Timberwolves got better.

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The Thunder got better.

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So I think the Mavericks are still there.

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They're still a big contender, but I don't think that it's like a big difference don't you?

00:19:51.251 --> 00:20:02.560
okay, you don't think it's a big difference, and diego's gonna give us his seeds for all the teams, so he's gonna do that in the next segment, so you'll see exactly where dallas fits, where, uh, the warriors fit, and all of that.

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Um, yeah, the uh, and dad, I want you to then chime back in.

00:20:06.531 --> 00:20:09.148
But the West has gotten better.

00:20:09.148 --> 00:20:11.508
Yes, the West has gotten better, of course.

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I mean, minnesota had an amazing draft.

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Okc has picked up some great pieces that they desperately needed.

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So, yes, the West has gotten better.

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There's no question about that.

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The Lakers drafted Bronny James.

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So, yes, the West has gotten better.

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There's no question about that.

00:20:25.673 --> 00:20:25.862
The Lakers drafted Bronny James.

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So, yes, the West has gotten.

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Amazing for sure, okay.

00:20:33.682 --> 00:20:36.669
You have a 4.5 points in college, wow, okay.

00:20:36.689 --> 00:20:36.848
Yeah.

00:20:40.563 --> 00:20:49.926
But I think the big key to Dallas is Luka, and there's two things here.

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So, yes, clay, there's no question Clay makes them better.

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Okay, the question is, does he make them better than the other teams?

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Because everyone else has gotten better, so they didn't have that outside threat.

00:21:00.628 --> 00:21:07.119
Hardaway Jr couldn't make anything in the playoffs, so Clay should be an asset to them.

00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:07.862
Yes, for sure.

00:21:07.862 --> 00:21:08.644
Uh.

00:21:08.683 --> 00:21:11.950
However, luca has got to be in shape.

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He's got to be in shape and he's got to be in shape the whole season.

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I think that's one thing, and the other key is kyrie irving.

00:21:18.631 --> 00:21:30.632
If they make it to the finals, odds are it's going to be boston, and he's got to get whatever boston demons out of his head, because everybody else kairi was a beast.

00:21:30.632 --> 00:21:33.779
It was amazing, but against boston in boston.

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Now, he played very well that one game when they blew boston out at home, but in boston he was terrible and he's gonna have to get over whatever that is in order for them to beat them.

00:21:44.510 --> 00:21:45.953
So those are two keys for me.

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So, dad, we'll give it back to you, okay.

00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:50.866
Okay, well, I agree with you.

00:21:50.866 --> 00:21:52.646
Kyrie is going to have to play better.

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Yes, we do have Klay, but we did get Quinton Grimes, which is a defensive player.

00:22:01.140 --> 00:22:05.569
We did add another piece, not only K, to come in and help us.

00:22:05.569 --> 00:22:19.502
We did get rid of Tim Hardaway Jr and we did get another player to come in his spot from Detroit, which is Quentin.

00:22:19.502 --> 00:22:24.049
James is the one that we got from Tim Hardaway in the trade.

00:22:24.049 --> 00:22:28.695
He was hurt last year but we're looking at him coming in and helping out.

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We also have Naj Marshall that came in this year.

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He's a defensive stopper.

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We lost Derek Jones, but we do have some pieces right now.

00:22:38.070 --> 00:22:52.730
Now we do have the twins, because we have Markeith Morris and they're looking at resigning him for the $2 million exception, but he has his brother and his brother can spread the floor.

00:22:52.730 --> 00:22:58.807
So they're looking at do we want to get a guard to spread the floor or do we want to get a fork?

00:22:58.807 --> 00:23:01.428
So we still are building the team.

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It's not just with Cliff.

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Okay, creative slash strategically, okay, we're setting this up.

00:23:12.491 --> 00:23:13.474
So we're not done.

00:23:13.474 --> 00:23:14.969
We're not done.

00:23:14.969 --> 00:23:24.988
That was just the first week, but we still got some other things that we will take care of this and we haven't used all that money.

00:23:24.988 --> 00:23:28.913
That's why we are creative Mm-hmm.

00:23:28.913 --> 00:23:39.647
And I agree All the teams has improved, okay, and so you know it's going to be a fight for the battle.

00:23:39.647 --> 00:23:42.412
It's not just one going to be there.

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I mean, the Nuggets are going to improve, okay, they're looking to improve themselves as well.

00:23:48.692 --> 00:23:57.372
I don't think the Lakers is going to do much or the Clippers are going to do much coming in, but the Timberwolves they got that good experience.

00:23:57.372 --> 00:23:58.455
They're going to be better.

00:24:00.006 --> 00:24:05.568
You talked about Luke again in the newspaper that I brought up, they talked about his health.

00:24:05.568 --> 00:24:07.708
They say he's 25 years old.

00:24:07.708 --> 00:24:11.907
He's got to be in better shape coming up.

00:24:11.907 --> 00:24:13.333
They are going to address that.

00:24:13.333 --> 00:24:24.653
He's playing in the Olympics right now trying to do that, but he's going to be on an improvement conditioning program so that he can be ready.

00:24:24.653 --> 00:24:38.711
A long time ago I read a book when I lived in North Carolina by Magic Johnson, and Magic Johnson said that you know, when I play my first game of the season, I'm in mid-season shape.

00:24:38.711 --> 00:24:39.875
First game.

00:24:39.875 --> 00:24:41.189
They played what?

00:24:41.189 --> 00:24:42.011
82 games.

00:24:42.011 --> 00:24:46.515
So he's already in shape as if he's played 41 games.

00:24:46.515 --> 00:25:07.013
That's the mentality, that's how you have to be physically ready to do that and that's what they got to work on, luca, because if you want to go to the finals, you play more than 82 games, so you got to have your body ready, to be ready and sustained.

00:25:07.013 --> 00:25:08.261
So that's what I'm looking for.

00:25:09.468 --> 00:25:12.075
Okay, yeah, there's no question it's going to have to be's.

00:25:12.075 --> 00:25:16.855
No, no question is going to have to be, have to be in shape and they're going to have to have the right matchup.

00:25:16.855 --> 00:25:21.393
So I mean, we found this this year's playoffs was.

00:25:21.393 --> 00:25:34.419
It just showed that matchups are everything and styles make fights, and you know to see Minnesota dismantle Denver and then they couldn't do anything against Dallas.

00:25:34.419 --> 00:25:38.103
It just showed how the matchups were everything.

00:25:38.103 --> 00:25:46.378
So the draw and the way things fall will also have a big play to everything.

00:25:46.378 --> 00:25:56.880
But Dallas has done a great job managing their cap, because if they didn't make the moves that they made before the deadline, they probably wouldn't have even gotten out of the first round.

00:25:57.363 --> 00:26:06.565
That's right, but they made some amazing moves at the end of the, at the end of the year, and that really helped them, and now they've had a really good offseason.

00:26:06.565 --> 00:26:09.211
So we'll see it's going to be.

00:26:09.211 --> 00:26:10.275
You know, can Clay?

00:26:10.275 --> 00:26:12.381
Does he have another act in him?

00:26:12.381 --> 00:26:14.266
Can he defend a little better?

00:26:14.266 --> 00:26:16.109
Uh, yeah, there's that.

00:26:16.130 --> 00:26:20.645
That's going to be very, very interesting and one last point I'd like to make.

00:26:20.645 --> 00:26:32.238
You know we had grant hill and grant hill went through a series of injuries with the magic he never could really get back to the way he was, okay as of being a premium player.

00:26:32.238 --> 00:26:43.615
But once he changed teams he may have went to Phoenix I can't remember right now but he became the old, great Grant Hill and that is what I'm kind of looking for with Clay.

00:26:43.615 --> 00:26:48.032
You know, out of California come to Texas, you know, even though his daddy played in Texas.

00:26:48.032 --> 00:26:50.686
So he got a little Texas in him as well.

00:26:50.686 --> 00:26:54.089
But I think a change in scenery and all that will help him out.

00:26:54.089 --> 00:26:59.695
He's got another few more years because he tore an ACL one year and an MCL.

00:26:59.695 --> 00:27:02.657
Those are two devastating industries.

00:27:02.657 --> 00:27:02.959
I mean.

00:27:02.959 --> 00:27:06.701
Look at Derrick Rose Okay, he ain't playing no more.

00:27:06.701 --> 00:27:14.528
Okay, after ten of those same type of injuries, okay.

00:27:14.528 --> 00:27:14.890
And Claire's?

00:27:15.289 --> 00:27:16.452
coming back, so I think all that is going to go back.

00:27:16.452 --> 00:27:16.913
Ok, all right Now.

00:27:16.913 --> 00:27:21.208
We appreciate your insight, as always, so we can't wait.

00:27:21.208 --> 00:27:24.276
You know, this is kind of our last show for a while talking about NBA.

00:27:24.276 --> 00:27:35.377
Of course, we might have a segment here and there as things break, but we're going to switch gears to football here starting next week, so yeah, I'll be excited.

00:27:35.377 --> 00:27:37.288
Yeah, but we definitely want to continue.

00:27:37.288 --> 00:27:39.394
So, fantasy you, you're going to be playing with us.

00:27:40.365 --> 00:27:43.055
Of course, okay, all right, okay.

00:27:43.546 --> 00:27:44.589
Suicide football too.

00:27:44.589 --> 00:27:46.306
Yeah yeah yeah, a lot of junk.

00:27:46.306 --> 00:27:52.758
Talking, oh, so hey, talking, oh so hey, brandon Silas, the crew, josh, our draft.

00:27:52.758 --> 00:27:57.646
So y'all may not know this, our draft is going to be live on Pick'em Pros.

00:27:57.646 --> 00:28:03.988
So it's going to be like we're going to broadcast the draft in real time as we're going.

00:28:03.988 --> 00:28:08.992
So you're going to have to pick and then you're going to be on the TV and everything.

00:28:08.992 --> 00:28:09.788
So that's going to be fun.

00:28:09.788 --> 00:28:10.792
So it's going to add on the TV and everything.

00:28:10.792 --> 00:28:11.296
That's going to be fun.

00:28:11.296 --> 00:28:13.366
It's going to add a whole other dynamic to that.

00:28:13.366 --> 00:28:14.391
That's going to be a lot of fun.

00:28:15.007 --> 00:28:15.608
Count me in.

00:28:16.131 --> 00:28:20.050
Good Is Dak's ankle?

00:28:20.050 --> 00:28:23.694
Is he going to be all right, or do we need to run away from CeeDee Lamb?

00:28:25.365 --> 00:28:26.431
That's a good question.

00:28:26.431 --> 00:28:29.326
They say he's not wearing the boot today.

00:28:29.326 --> 00:28:34.738
I think he's probably not wearing the boot because he got a lot of attention to it, but they say it's pretty minor.

00:28:34.738 --> 00:28:39.607
Uh, let's say he's been uh working out looking pretty good uh.

00:28:39.607 --> 00:28:44.198
But the major thing now is the uh backup quarterback.

00:28:44.198 --> 00:28:45.705
Because you know they're looking at zach.

00:28:45.705 --> 00:28:51.075
Uh, they're gonna pay him uh 60 million okay, which is looking at the price there.

00:28:51.075 --> 00:28:54.259
It may cost Jerry Jones to be able to do that.

00:28:54.365 --> 00:28:58.316
So you got to look at that as well, what type of season that he has.

00:28:58.316 --> 00:29:01.527
And he's got two backups, of course.

00:29:01.527 --> 00:29:02.852
You got Cooper Rush.

00:29:02.852 --> 00:29:10.917
You know he has come in, he's got six years of experience and he has played very good in that position.

00:29:10.917 --> 00:29:21.375
And then you got Trey, lance and Trey, you know every time he never really got a chance to prove himself, but they have him as well.

00:29:21.375 --> 00:29:23.573
So it's going to be interesting.

00:29:23.573 --> 00:29:37.414
So they're really looking at the backup just in case this ankle and this boot might be a problem, and we got to make sure we got a backup that we can go in and be able to do that.

00:29:37.915 --> 00:29:38.837
Okay, all right.

00:29:38.837 --> 00:29:53.093
Okay, all right, we'll see your insight because some of the early rankings we're seeing CD at the top of a lot of lists, so yeah, but we're going to rank wide receivers next week, so we're going to give you our top at least 20, if not 30 receivers next week.

00:29:53.093 --> 00:29:56.318
Okay, all right, cool, cool, all right, dad.

00:29:56.318 --> 00:29:58.752
Well, we'll see you later on.

00:29:58.752 --> 00:30:00.921
Thanks again for joining us and giving us a little bit of time.

00:30:00.941 --> 00:30:01.365
Thank you very much.

00:30:01.365 --> 00:30:02.570
This was a surprise.

00:30:02.570 --> 00:30:04.111
I had to do my homework today.

00:30:05.979 --> 00:30:07.203
But, thank you, I appreciate it.

00:30:07.203 --> 00:30:08.646
You bet, you bet.

00:30:08.646 --> 00:30:09.186
Oh, you bet.

00:30:09.186 --> 00:30:31.237
Okay, all right, thank you, thank you, okay, all right, man, cool had to bring, had to bring pawpaw on here get his insight, uh, from from the city of dallas on what's going on there, but they're clearly very excited to have clay and uh congrats, looking forward to, uh, to big things this year.

00:30:31.998 --> 00:30:33.299
All right, all right, so, man.

00:30:33.299 --> 00:30:48.114
So, diego, let's get into these seeds and I'm sure we're going to kind of continue our conversation on the Warriors, because again, like Brandon said, fifth or sixth seed as of right now, but again still making moves, I'm curious to see where you have the Warriors.

00:30:48.114 --> 00:30:50.171
We'll just kind of continue.

00:30:50.171 --> 00:30:52.913
But let's start with the East.

00:30:52.913 --> 00:30:58.113
Diego, I want you to give us your seeds for the NBA.

00:30:58.113 --> 00:31:00.678
Let's start with the East, number 10.

00:31:00.678 --> 00:31:03.472
Who's going to finish in the 10th seed in the East?

00:31:04.075 --> 00:31:04.898
All right, 10 to 1.

00:31:04.898 --> 00:31:05.701
Number 10.

00:31:05.701 --> 00:31:08.528
I got the Chicago Bulls finishing in at number 10.

00:31:08.528 --> 00:31:11.616
They're probably gonna lose to Rosen.

00:31:11.616 --> 00:31:13.486
They had a pretty good draft pick.

00:31:13.486 --> 00:31:18.948
I think I got from G League night that people are losing their mind on, so I think it'll be enough for them to get into the play-in.

00:31:18.948 --> 00:31:21.453
And number nine I got the Hawks.

00:31:21.453 --> 00:31:27.965
I don't know where Trey Young was gonna happen with him they traded DeJounte Murray but they did get the number one overall pick.

00:31:27.965 --> 00:31:29.228
So I think they'll be enough.

00:31:29.228 --> 00:31:31.872
They'll be good enough to make the play into um.

00:31:31.872 --> 00:31:34.336
Number eight I got the indiana pacers.

00:31:34.336 --> 00:31:40.413
Um, they made the easy conference finals last year, but I think I just don't think they're that good.

00:31:40.413 --> 00:31:44.009
I think the matchups were worked in their favor last year.

00:31:44.009 --> 00:31:45.874
I think they're gonna slide to the a seed.

00:31:45.874 --> 00:31:48.527
And number seven I got miami heat.

00:31:48.527 --> 00:31:51.553
Uh, jimmy buckets him at a bio.

00:31:51.553 --> 00:31:56.868
I think they're gonna bounce back and um finishing playing a little higher this time.

00:31:56.868 --> 00:31:59.173
And okay.

00:31:59.252 --> 00:32:04.145
So the heat at seven pacers, you have them sliding.

00:32:04.145 --> 00:32:04.547
Okay.

00:32:04.547 --> 00:32:06.832
So you think some of that was a fluke from?

00:32:06.832 --> 00:32:11.192
Last year and you got the heat at seven, uh, so still playing, though.

00:32:11.192 --> 00:32:20.269
So playing miami heat, you're still gonna have to play yeah, that's their tradition annual annual playing heat and annual playing heat okay number six.

00:32:20.669 --> 00:32:23.134
I'm going with the orlando magic um.

00:32:23.134 --> 00:32:32.619
I think they were the fifth seed last year but the east has gotten a little bit better and I think the six um for them in the sixth spot is good.

00:32:32.619 --> 00:32:46.997
Kcp, he's gonna provide some shooting for them, some good defense, a little more and some championship experience for a young team that was uh good last year and took the calves to seven game series in the first round last year.

00:32:46.997 --> 00:32:48.488
So I have them at six.

00:32:48.488 --> 00:32:54.027
Number five I have the have the Cavs with Donovan Mitchell and them they.

00:32:54.027 --> 00:33:01.250
Yeah, they're pretty much the same as always, so I'm not really going to say anything about them, josh is Cleveland Cavs.

00:33:01.672 --> 00:33:02.134
All right, yeah.

00:33:02.134 --> 00:33:09.479
And number four I got the Milwaukee Bucks, giannis and Dame Doc.

00:33:09.479 --> 00:33:18.193
They're a bit of an older team so I think the regular season they won't take it seriously, so that's why I have them a little lower for.

00:33:18.193 --> 00:33:28.914
And number three I got the 76ers with their big additions, with Paul George, jerry McCain, the draft pick.

00:33:28.914 --> 00:33:32.993
So I think they're going to have a good year, a good regular season.

00:33:34.468 --> 00:33:36.273
Got Jack C's 76ers.

00:33:36.494 --> 00:33:39.291
Oh, yeah, yeah, congrats for you guys.

00:33:39.291 --> 00:33:40.154
I don't really like them.

00:33:40.154 --> 00:33:44.394
Number two I'm going with the New York Knicks.

00:33:44.394 --> 00:33:52.375
They may not be the second most talented team in the East but, I, know the coach is going to have them playing hard every single game.

00:33:52.375 --> 00:34:00.351
Okay, and you know, with all of them they did improve the roster with Mikkel Bridges, so I think they're going to give it, give it their all and finish number two in the East.

00:34:00.692 --> 00:34:02.416
Perfect, perfect Number one of course.

00:34:03.266 --> 00:34:05.631
And just shout out to Rob we see you backstage, my man.

00:34:12.784 --> 00:34:14.090
So we'll bring you on for the next segment, but we, we can see you.

00:34:14.090 --> 00:34:14.492
Okay, go ahead, diego.

00:34:14.492 --> 00:34:14.974
Number one I got this.

00:34:14.974 --> 00:34:15.778
Boston saltos, of course, reigning champs.

00:34:15.778 --> 00:34:20.331
There's the most talented team in the east and just the best team, so I'm gonna go with them at one got them at at one.

00:34:20.371 --> 00:34:22.115
So nicks, oh man, that's a little.

00:34:22.115 --> 00:34:30.719
I mean sixers, paul, george, a lot of people would have the sixers, at least number two but yeah, I think it's they're.

00:34:31.045 --> 00:34:39.949
They're not gonna stay healthy the whole season and say, it's just true, they're not okay, joe joellen beat and paul george that it just doesn't happen.

00:34:39.949 --> 00:34:51.853
So okay, and if you look at the playoffs last last few seasons they both of them have been injured in the playoffs, so I don't even know how deep they'll go in the playoffs fair, fair enough, okay, all right.

00:34:51.873 --> 00:34:52.715
All right, we'll take that.

00:34:52.795 --> 00:34:56.472
Okay, so that's your 10 through Regular season is a young team game.

00:34:59.291 --> 00:35:01.858
So that's your 10 through one for the Eastern Conference.

00:35:01.858 --> 00:35:05.472
I really agree with you for the most part.

00:35:05.472 --> 00:35:12.016
The only one Nice, the only one I maybe don't would be the Bulls.

00:35:12.217 --> 00:35:26.271
Actually, if they lose to Rosen, I don't know if they make the play-in this year, so that's the only one, I think the East is so weak I had to put somebody in there, so I just stuck with them.

00:35:26.271 --> 00:35:27.052
That's interesting.

00:35:27.534 --> 00:35:29.297
All right, okay, man.

00:35:29.297 --> 00:35:30.298
So that's the East.

00:35:30.298 --> 00:35:32.391
Let's move on to the West west.

00:35:32.391 --> 00:35:33.755
Who do you have in the uh?

00:35:34.947 --> 00:35:35.708
these are 10.

00:35:35.708 --> 00:35:39.159
Very, all these teams are good and number.

00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:40.282
That's a good list right there.

00:35:40.282 --> 00:35:43.188
But number 10 I'm going with the kings.

00:35:43.188 --> 00:35:46.275
Um, they got I just, I just don't know.

00:35:46.275 --> 00:35:47.516
The rest is so good.

00:35:47.516 --> 00:35:52.722
Um, I had to put one good team at the 10th spot and it just had to be the Kings.

00:35:52.722 --> 00:35:56.590
Even though they got Fox and Sabonis, I think they had to go 10.

00:35:57.146 --> 00:36:00.331
Number 9, this is a shocker I got the Phoenix Suns.

00:36:00.331 --> 00:36:03.023
Oh, phoenix Suns 9?

00:36:03.023 --> 00:36:04.610
I just don't believe them.

00:36:04.610 --> 00:36:08.789
The way they got swept is going to hurt them mentally.

00:36:08.789 --> 00:36:16.612
Booker and Katie in the Olympics I don't know how that's going to translate to next year.

00:36:16.612 --> 00:36:19.652
I just don't believe in them.

00:36:22.213 --> 00:36:24.251
Anyway, number eight I got the Lakers.

00:36:24.251 --> 00:36:32.510
Some could argue for them higher, but they are an old team.

00:36:32.510 --> 00:36:41.175
The older teams recently haven't been taken in regular season seriously and they've had to kind of scrap into the playing and maybe make a deep run from there.

00:36:41.175 --> 00:36:43.954
But I just don't really like them too.

00:36:43.954 --> 00:36:51.331
Like the Bronny I don't know if he's going to work, I don't know if Redick's going to coach, I just don't really know with them.

00:36:53.324 --> 00:36:54.847
Okay, yeah, number number seven I got the pelicans.

00:36:54.847 --> 00:37:07.204
Um, they have a really good team, uh with dion, brandon ingram, uh, murray and cj mccollum, but their health issues have been hurting them and hurting them in the playoff race.

00:37:07.204 --> 00:37:10.798
They usually started well and then the injuries moved them down.

00:37:10.798 --> 00:37:14.068
So I have them at seven and number six.

00:37:14.068 --> 00:37:16.954
I got the memphis grizzlies making a comeback.

00:37:16.954 --> 00:37:23.942
Um, they've had two, two really good regular seasons the last two years and they had jaw and I don't, I.

00:37:23.942 --> 00:37:25.445
I don't see why that's going to stop me.

00:37:25.445 --> 00:37:35.954
They have zach edie, who can defend some of the other big guys in the West and can just provide some size, and Ja is going to be ready for another great season.

00:37:35.954 --> 00:37:37.217
Five and a six.

00:37:38.728 --> 00:37:40.635
I think they have a bounce back year for sure.

00:37:40.635 --> 00:37:42.751
So yeah, looking forward to that, Okay.

00:37:43.365 --> 00:37:45.112
Number five I got the Warriors.

00:37:45.112 --> 00:37:51.336
Yeah, I like the moves they're making, I like their roster.

00:37:51.336 --> 00:38:08.693
And another thing I have to say about the Warriors and Klay the last time they were without Klay for a big chunk of the season was 2022, when they won the championship For like half the season they had the best record in the NBA and they were just on a roll.

00:38:08.693 --> 00:38:14.768
So I think that maybe it can just help help them, to just give them a fresh start.

00:38:14.768 --> 00:38:16.431
Okay, have them at five.

00:38:16.431 --> 00:38:18.456
Number four I got the mavs.

00:38:18.456 --> 00:38:19.646
You know, for all the reasons.

00:38:20.206 --> 00:38:29.030
Uh, you and pawpaw said um yeah, I just, I just like them, but I just don't think they're doing the top three teams.

00:38:29.030 --> 00:38:32.181
Okay, number three I got the nuggets.

00:38:32.181 --> 00:38:36.432
They're arguably the best team in the west, but, yeah, they.

00:38:36.432 --> 00:38:43.409
There's an older team, I don't know, and I I don't know how, how seriously it'll take the regular season.

00:38:43.409 --> 00:38:46.255
So, number two I got the thunder.

00:38:46.255 --> 00:38:53.387
They're they're they have a little more experience this year, and with caruso and hartenstein I think they're they have a little more experience this year, and with caruso and hartenstein I think they're going to be better.

00:38:53.387 --> 00:38:57.797
Okay, man, number one, my championship pick for this year, the t wolves.

00:38:57.797 --> 00:39:02.846
But they're a young team and with the, with the draft they had, they're keeping the roster the same.

00:39:02.885 --> 00:39:13.474
I think they're going to keep it rolling okay, yeah, and and but, and they're gonna roll through the regular season, not try to load, just really make a statement and push through.

00:39:13.474 --> 00:39:20.869
Yeah, okay, yeah, good list, not a whole lot.

00:39:20.869 --> 00:39:23.188
I disagree with, I think, the Golden State one.

00:39:23.188 --> 00:39:27.297
I think they are more of a playing team.

00:39:27.297 --> 00:39:29.172
I don't think they finished fifth.

00:39:29.172 --> 00:39:31.007
I think that's a little high.

00:39:32.289 --> 00:39:39.989
But I know Brandon was saying fifth, sixth, silas, silas I don't know if you're still on, I'd love to know where you've got the Warriors.

00:39:39.989 --> 00:39:44.199
But again, that was kind of my that, that was still my point.

00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:45.847
So I think we're saying the same thing.

00:39:45.847 --> 00:39:48.472
We just have different expectations of.

00:39:48.472 --> 00:39:53.539
I feel that fifth or sixth is not where the Warriors want to be.

00:39:53.539 --> 00:39:59.438
I feel that with Steph, you know these last few years, they're going for a championship.

00:39:59.438 --> 00:40:08.880
So I think we're saying the same thing but we have different expectations, is what I feel with the Warriors there.

00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.195
So Brandon's got T-Wolves, okc.

00:40:13.195 --> 00:40:22.054
Yeah, you guys have very similar yeah, man, yeah, that's almost that's very similar, almost identical yeah of you and Brandon there.

00:40:22.054 --> 00:40:26.516
So Golden State Warrior fans thinking alike.

00:40:27.059 --> 00:40:29.871
Yeah Well, we have reason too.

00:40:29.871 --> 00:40:31.856
We have reason, we know the roster.

00:40:33.306 --> 00:40:37.135
That is true, that is good, ok, all right, all right.

00:40:37.135 --> 00:40:38.398
Well, no Good Good list.

00:40:38.398 --> 00:40:49.278
What we'll have to do is a comparison and we're going to bring Rob on here's backstage, but we're going to do a comparison and to what you pick this early to where they ended up.

00:40:49.278 --> 00:40:55.409
Picked this early to where they ended up, and in years past you've been very close.

00:40:55.409 --> 00:40:59.717
I remember one year, um, you know, we went, toronto, had many years in a row of finishing fourth, fifth.

00:40:59.717 --> 00:41:05.016
We both had them lower and a lot of people got mad at us, but we were spot on with that.

00:41:05.016 --> 00:41:07.507
I actually think that was one uh comment.

00:41:07.507 --> 00:41:11.737
Um, I think toronto, I would replace chicago with toronto.

00:41:11.737 --> 00:41:21.385
Um, I mean, good, my goodness, with all the money that toronto spent, I would hope that they at least make the play in uh that'd be pretty sad.

00:41:22.106 --> 00:41:31.016
Yeah, well, scotty barnes, and quickly, and rj barrett can lead the way that's right, they definitely can.

00:41:31.737 --> 00:41:32.737
All right, cool man.

00:41:32.737 --> 00:41:37.106
Well, hey, let's get into our final segment and topic.

00:41:37.106 --> 00:41:42.856
Here we've got mr rob martin joining us on pick'em pros for the first time.

00:41:42.856 --> 00:41:46.009
Our guy what's up, rob what's up fellas how you doing.

00:41:46.128 --> 00:42:04.215
Thanks for having me man, it is great to have you on um and we're gonna touch on something that we have not um really been a part of for a long time and you're bringing this back into our view, so had to have you on as a guest and talk about trading cards and all that.

00:42:04.215 --> 00:42:16.652
We really want you to kind of school us and let us know what's good, what's bad and all of that.

00:42:16.652 --> 00:42:22.032
But before we do that, I've got to just give a little bit of background of who you are to our audience.

00:42:22.032 --> 00:42:28.409
So, guys, rob is one of the best people you will ever meet, just walking the face of this earth.

00:42:28.409 --> 00:42:32.778
He has just been so kind to our tweens in tech camp.

00:42:32.778 --> 00:42:41.626
He always comes and presents to our kids, always donates food to us, always just is there for anything we need.

00:42:41.626 --> 00:42:45.336
I can go on and on and on with everything that he's done for us.

00:42:45.336 --> 00:42:49.456
So just appreciate you personally, rob, and it's a joy to have you on the show.

00:42:50.831 --> 00:42:51.233
Well, thank you.

00:42:51.233 --> 00:42:59.391
Well, I was excited about this opportunity as Derek and I were talking on the phone, and I don't know if you knew this about me, but I've been collecting sports cards for over 25 years.

00:42:59.391 --> 00:43:09.264
So I'm a big basketball fan, so I've been a Jordan fan for years, since he was a rookie, and for many years I've been collecting his cards.

00:43:09.264 --> 00:43:20.273
Something that's kind of fascinating to me that folks don't realize is that sports cards have always been something that had been a legacy, something that you can leave to your family and what I call your sports figure.

00:43:20.273 --> 00:43:33.851
You just want to have that card.

00:43:33.851 --> 00:43:35.090
You want to have something you can remember.

00:43:35.090 --> 00:43:38.811
Maybe it's a shot they made, maybe it was a moment in time that you remember.

00:43:38.811 --> 00:43:40.675
It's pretty interesting.

00:43:40.675 --> 00:43:44.295
But, diego, when I was talking to your dad, I was thinking how neat it was.

00:43:44.295 --> 00:43:50.438
As you're doing, your broadcast is to talk about some of the opportunities you have with sports cards.

00:43:50.438 --> 00:43:52.713
So, in essence, I've been collecting for a while.

00:43:52.713 --> 00:43:57.056
I have over 20,000 cards and I've been putting them into collections.

00:43:57.224 --> 00:43:58.565
Now I'm a little bit different.

00:43:58.565 --> 00:44:02.195
So when I start talking about trading cards, I'm very particular about my cards.

00:44:02.195 --> 00:44:04.713
So there's some things like I brought a few cards to display.

00:44:04.713 --> 00:44:10.211
But I'll mention some things like when I'm working with my cards, I make sure that they're put in plastic.

00:44:10.211 --> 00:44:15.610
So one of the fun things I enjoy doing is I call it cracking packs.

00:44:15.610 --> 00:44:18.197
So every other week I will order a mystery pack.

00:44:18.197 --> 00:44:20.172
You can get those mystery packs from a local dealer.

00:44:20.172 --> 00:44:22.101
You can get those through Amazon.

00:44:22.101 --> 00:44:30.751
I've got some pretty good picks and some companies that I've ordered from that have those mystery packs, and those mystery packs have anything from loose cards to actual graded cards.

00:44:30.751 --> 00:44:37.351
So for me, I've gotten some Jordans, I've gotten some Pippins, I've gotten some pretty solid cards.

00:44:37.351 --> 00:44:37.974
Some of them are new.

00:44:37.974 --> 00:44:42.456
So remember, the card doesn't necessarily have to be very old in order to be valuable.

00:44:43.306 --> 00:44:46.996
I'll pause for a minute if you're a big fan of Golden G-O-L-D-I-N.

00:44:46.996 --> 00:44:48.871
Golden is an auction house.

00:44:48.871 --> 00:44:50.666
You can look them up in Google.

00:44:50.666 --> 00:44:52.467
And Golden is an auction house.

00:44:52.467 --> 00:44:53.228
You can look them up in Google.

00:44:53.228 --> 00:44:53.809
And Mr Golden, ken Golden.

00:44:53.809 --> 00:44:56.192
He's been in business since 2012.

00:44:56.192 --> 00:44:58.994
So he auctions sports memorabilia.

00:44:58.994 --> 00:45:03.539
So one of the cards that was auctioned in the last couple of years was a Wimbyama.

00:45:03.539 --> 00:45:06.641
It was a one of one and it was a signed Wimbyama.

00:45:06.641 --> 00:45:09.588
So that card was opened.

00:45:09.588 --> 00:45:16.666
It was cracked in Germany and the person who had that found it, brought it here and auctioned it off and it went from.

00:45:16.666 --> 00:45:21.498
It went for an amazing sum fifty six thousand one hundred eleven dollars for that particular card.

00:45:21.498 --> 00:45:24.090
I know, do you see Diego's eyes?

00:45:24.090 --> 00:45:27.398
He's like well, wait a minute, I think we need to do a new segment on our sports.

00:45:27.398 --> 00:45:28.547
Yes, we do so.

00:45:28.547 --> 00:45:31.215
Anyway, I'm a pause for a minute.

00:45:31.215 --> 00:45:34.405
Diego, you ever considered cracking packs, man?

00:45:35.668 --> 00:45:37.570
oh, I was, I used to.

00:45:37.570 --> 00:45:45.498
I can hear myself, but uh, yeah, I used to collect more when I was, like in elementary school and stuff, and now it's cool getting back into it.

00:45:45.498 --> 00:45:46.903
So, yeah, I like it.

00:45:46.943 --> 00:45:50.692
Yeah, I definitely consider that, so yeah so let me start with a couple of them.

00:45:50.692 --> 00:45:54.639
So I so I was actually cracking some packs and I'll see how this will come through.

00:45:54.639 --> 00:46:02.177
Let me put this in here this is a Wimbyama Okay, it's one of the ones where you can see one of the sneakers, oh, yeah.

00:46:02.177 --> 00:46:04.273
And this is a PSA graded card.

00:46:04.273 --> 00:46:08.485
Now, what's nice about this one is this was graded an eight, an eight's pretty good.

00:46:08.485 --> 00:46:11.672
You want to kind of get in the nine and the ten range and those really hold a lot of value.

00:46:11.672 --> 00:46:18.086
So every other time I've been ordering cards and as I've been ordering those, I've been finding more.

00:46:18.086 --> 00:46:20.771
So, as an example, I pulled another wimby ama.

00:46:20.771 --> 00:46:25.648
If you see this one here, this is a psa grade nine.

00:46:25.648 --> 00:46:29.902
And remember, these are rookie cards for wimby ama.

00:46:29.902 --> 00:46:33.554
You know he's been tearing up the courts, he's been doing an amazing job.

00:46:33.554 --> 00:46:38.371
But one of the neatest things is two weeks ago when I cracked one of the mystery packs.

00:46:38.371 --> 00:46:46.641
If you see this one here, this is a PSA 10 rookie greetings card Wimbyama Wow.

00:46:46.641 --> 00:46:52.817
So these are really neat and as you have those, you can find your you know, your favorite player.

00:46:52.817 --> 00:46:53.947
You can take these.

00:46:53.947 --> 00:46:56.454
Now, just another really neat thing.

00:46:56.606 --> 00:46:57.954
I'm going to talk about a little hygiene.

00:46:57.954 --> 00:47:04.657
When it comes to cracking packs, first thing you do is make sure you wash your hands, and what I do is I wash my hands and then I glove up.

00:47:04.657 --> 00:47:06.990
You don't want to have any oils on your fingers.

00:47:06.990 --> 00:47:07.994
When you're putting your cards in.

00:47:07.994 --> 00:47:18.112
You want to be really careful with those, because when they do grade those, you, when you're putting your cards in, you want to be really careful with those, because when they do grade those, you want to make sure they don't have any issues with the edges and they're in really good shape.

00:47:18.112 --> 00:47:19.056
You can actually buy these are some of the ones that I get that are empty.

00:47:19.056 --> 00:47:23.141
You can drop those in for the cards that you look up that have a little bit more value.

00:47:23.905 --> 00:47:27.309
And then, if you have something that you know, I'll use an example.

00:47:27.309 --> 00:47:29.592
This is kind of an open pack, if you can see.

00:47:29.592 --> 00:47:30.934
You can slide that card in there.

00:47:30.934 --> 00:47:32.195
A lot of these are signed.

00:47:32.195 --> 00:47:34.378
They have pieces of Jersey in them.

00:47:34.378 --> 00:47:38.568
So these are things that you can't see and for me, I consider them art.

00:47:39.329 --> 00:47:50.619
Yeah, so when I look at these packs but as I'm getting, I guess, more into the newer cards, it could be any sports, I have hockey, I have baseball.

00:47:50.619 --> 00:47:54.606
It could be any sports.

00:47:54.606 --> 00:47:56.833
I have hockey, I have baseball, I have basketball and those are kind of my you know my big ones.

00:47:56.833 --> 00:48:05.204
But any of those, like I have some Nolan Ryan cards, I have some Ken Griffith Jr and these are ones that you can keep around for some time and they're I'll tell you.

00:48:05.224 --> 00:48:14.538
The other kind of neat thing is there, you can sit down, you can look back through history, like I have a card of the dream team when they played and they tore everybody up in the Olympics, which was wonderful.

00:48:14.538 --> 00:48:19.047
I have Wayne Gretzky card from the 90s, so some of those are.

00:48:19.047 --> 00:48:22.137
If you are big into Wayne Gretzky fans.

00:48:22.137 --> 00:48:25.074
In 1980, there was an Opeche card.

00:48:25.074 --> 00:48:28.655
It was his rookie card and that one sold for over $3 million.

00:48:28.655 --> 00:48:32.355
So there's some future investment in these cards that are kind of neat.

00:48:32.355 --> 00:48:36.309
But the fun part is is for you, diego, and you know Derek has grabbed some cards.

00:48:36.309 --> 00:48:37.253
Man, let's do a segment.

00:48:37.253 --> 00:48:39.793
We'll crack some packs, we'll get them in there and go full.

00:48:39.793 --> 00:48:49.688
We don't know what you got and then you take a few minutes, you crack those things open and you'd be surprised what you can get the Wimby armor right now If he continues to do well as a you know a PSA.

00:48:49.688 --> 00:48:56.992
10 down the road, maybe 10, 20 years from now, it could be worth quite a bit oh for sure, wow, wow.

00:48:57.092 --> 00:49:06.018
And so the card that you showed us, the Wendy that had his name, yeah, so the there's like that red border and there's information there.

00:49:06.018 --> 00:49:08.438
So was that did?

00:49:08.438 --> 00:49:10.940
Did you receive the card with that, or how did?

00:49:10.981 --> 00:49:15.163
Yes, ok, yeah, this was already graded, which is pretty neat.

00:49:15.163 --> 00:49:16.543
Did you receive the card with that, or how did yes?

00:49:16.543 --> 00:49:18.344
Okay, yeah, this was already graded, which is pretty neat.

00:49:18.344 --> 00:49:19.938
So a lot of these cards, they'll come in and stack them in.

00:49:19.938 --> 00:49:20.605
Now you'll get loose cards.

00:49:20.605 --> 00:49:22.490
As an example, I showed you this one.

00:49:22.490 --> 00:49:23.373
This one was loose.

00:49:23.373 --> 00:49:28.976
I actually put it inside of a case to make sure that there weren't any oils on it.

00:49:28.976 --> 00:49:38.572
If you notice, even on the outside or the inside of this case there's another little piece of plastic.

00:49:38.572 --> 00:49:38.893
I slid it into.

00:49:38.893 --> 00:49:39.797
That way it doesn't get scratched.

00:49:39.817 --> 00:49:46.476
And as you find cards that are worth quite a bit of money, then you can take those cards and you can hang on to them, Then you can have them graded and then you can send them off.

00:49:46.476 --> 00:49:48.027
And there's a lot of companies that do that.

00:49:48.027 --> 00:49:50.793
I'm a big fan of Golden, Ken Golden.

00:49:50.793 --> 00:49:55.108
He's a billionaire now and he auctions all kinds of things.

00:49:55.108 --> 00:49:56.913
So sports cards is one of them.

00:49:56.913 --> 00:49:58.717
He does sports memorabilia.

00:49:58.717 --> 00:50:02.197
He's got a lot of friends in the industry for me.

00:50:02.257 --> 00:50:09.327
But if you pull up a card, just like a Nolan Ryan is an example, and I have some of those Bo Jackson cards it's a little piece of history that you can have.

00:50:09.327 --> 00:50:18.215
And then for you, Diego, you can take and start looking at these Wendy's and start making some history when you pull some of these out too and these are already graded.

00:50:18.215 --> 00:50:28.628
Or if you find one that isn't graded, if it's worth or you see that it's going to be worth something down the road, you can have it graded by PSA, send it off and have it graded, and they'll take care of that for you.

00:50:29.510 --> 00:50:30.592
Oh, nice yeah.

00:50:31.896 --> 00:50:36.047
Yeah, yeah, that that's really neat we have.

00:50:36.047 --> 00:50:43.632
We used to record back in the day and now you know we're starting to get back into it with you, you know, encouraging us.

00:50:43.632 --> 00:50:49.777
So we'd love to buy a pack, you know, back to a month and start to open those up on the show.

00:50:49.777 --> 00:50:51.532
We'd love to love to start to do that.

00:50:52.025 --> 00:50:52.688
Yeah, absolutely.

00:50:52.688 --> 00:50:53.992
It's something I do every other week.

00:50:53.992 --> 00:50:56.012
So if you ever want to join forces, let me know.

00:50:56.012 --> 00:50:56.472
I'm going to.

00:50:56.472 --> 00:50:57.588
I order one every other week.

00:50:57.588 --> 00:50:58.452
It's a mystery pack.

00:50:58.452 --> 00:51:00.378
I don't open it until I sit down.

00:51:00.378 --> 00:51:08.233
I take an opportunity, I get gloved up, pull some, take a look at what they, what you have, and then take those cards and then you can enjoy them.

00:51:08.233 --> 00:51:15.014
Diego, earlier Did you mention him?

00:51:15.724 --> 00:51:16.268
I don't think so.

00:51:16.268 --> 00:51:17.070
I don't think I mentioned him.

00:51:17.070 --> 00:51:18.389
Oh, I did.

00:51:18.389 --> 00:51:19.331
It's Coach Lakers.

00:51:19.331 --> 00:51:19.753
Yeah, I did.

00:51:20.865 --> 00:51:25.771
I've got his card oh nice when he entered into the NBA.

00:51:25.771 --> 00:51:33.054
So it's interesting because I always remember him playing before right College level but I've got his actually NBA card when he was actually a player there.

00:51:33.054 --> 00:51:42.019
So some of those you want to hang on to and sports memorabilia is something that has gained, continued to gain in value and it's something that holds its value for a period of time.

00:51:42.019 --> 00:51:47.943
And I think the most important thing of many collectors is they have things that they can share with their children and then go back and say, hey, take a look at this shot.

00:51:47.943 --> 00:51:50.067
This is when Wimby Alma came on deck.

00:51:50.067 --> 00:51:52.210
You know the alien came on deck and you know he's.

00:51:52.210 --> 00:51:59.869
He's dropping these shots and shots and this is when he was a rookie and it's neat to see that history and be able to be part of that and share that with others too.

00:51:59.869 --> 00:52:01.014
It's also educational.

00:52:01.014 --> 00:52:05.405
If you've got a new, you know whoever's next coming behind Mumbiama and others.

00:52:05.405 --> 00:52:24.206
Those cards will come out and they get a shot and they become not only valuable I think in the essence of it's valuable, which you can sell it for, but many collectors they don't sell, they keep them for quite some time.

00:52:24.226 --> 00:52:26.128
The most expensive card that I've seen that was auctioned off was around $5 million.

00:52:26.128 --> 00:52:32.514
It was a baseball card originally and there's some information on this that you can get, but it was originally done.

00:52:32.514 --> 00:52:37.981
Tobacco was the person who used to put those on there and the person's like I don't want to be part of that.

00:52:37.981 --> 00:52:51.335
There was an elite number and it was a T206 and they have these different grades for the higher the grade, the more valuable that card is and they become quite scarce and there's there's some real exclusivity when it comes to that.

00:52:51.335 --> 00:52:54.849
But I mean, I'm kind of OG, I like your Pippins, I like your Jordans.

00:52:54.849 --> 00:53:23.065
You know, for me, shaq, I got a bunch of Shaq cards, some real blinged out gold Shaq cards that I've had for a period of time, no-transcript.

00:53:23.065 --> 00:53:28.052
So I think he'll do amazingly and excited to watch you and be part of that, sir, yeah.

00:53:28.072 --> 00:53:28.474
Thank you.

00:53:28.474 --> 00:53:35.766
Thank you so, diego, do you have any questions for Rob?

00:53:37.108 --> 00:53:38.268
Oh yeah, do you know?

00:53:38.268 --> 00:53:40.831
You said you like more of the like OG cards.

00:53:40.831 --> 00:53:49.958
But do you like go, go for the rookie so that they can have more value as time grows when you get new cards?

00:53:49.958 --> 00:53:51.079
Absolutely.

00:53:51.259 --> 00:53:52.400
Anybody that's up and coming.

00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:53.440
You know they're.

00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:55.181
At one time, who was Wimby Alma?

00:53:55.181 --> 00:53:56.766
Right, who's this guy?

00:53:56.766 --> 00:54:04.550
And then, as I started cracking packs, and I started looking at them and then saying, all right, well, let's see what this player is going to do, and you never know what's going to happen.

00:54:04.550 --> 00:54:07.795
So, for me, when I open a pack, it's potential.

00:54:07.795 --> 00:54:10.190
There's so much potential in there.

00:54:10.264 --> 00:54:18.628
You pull a relic and that person all of a sudden just takes off as an all-star and they do really well, star, and they do really well.

00:54:18.628 --> 00:54:19.311
I think it's a great, great way.

00:54:19.311 --> 00:54:20.215
And then you know, let's think about this too.

00:54:20.215 --> 00:54:23.871
You know, as, as your show continues to grow, you might pull somebody on it or sign one of those cards.

00:54:23.871 --> 00:54:30.496
Now, remember, you want to immortalize that and say, hey, let's say, you know you, you're balling and you get Moonbyama and he signs a card for you.

00:54:30.496 --> 00:54:33.168
Take that card and slide it in there, and you keep that for a period of time.

00:54:33.168 --> 00:54:35.391
That value of that card is going to soar.

00:54:35.391 --> 00:54:39.876
So you get an opportunity to meet some of the people when they autograph these.

00:54:40.536 --> 00:54:51.088
What I think is wonderful, though, is there's a lot of one of ones, so there was a Formula One card.

00:54:51.088 --> 00:54:53.016
That was a rookie and it was pulled by a young man who was 15 years old in Canada.

00:54:53.016 --> 00:54:56.367
You can come behind me, it's in the golden series you can watch on Netflix, which is really interesting.

00:54:56.367 --> 00:54:58.253
But he pulled this Formula One card.

00:54:58.253 --> 00:55:04.695
It was a one of one and he had a private collector offer him and actually paid him over seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars for this card.

00:55:04.695 --> 00:55:09.833
Oh wow, he paid 50 bucks for the pack, nice.

00:55:12.505 --> 00:55:13.548
Talk about a return.

00:55:13.969 --> 00:55:16.076
Yeah, and it was.

00:55:16.766 --> 00:55:18.327
Yeah, to return Now, rob.

00:55:18.327 --> 00:55:22.215
What did you purchase to get that pack?

00:55:22.215 --> 00:55:29.106
Or what type of pack was that, where there were some individuals and then there were some already graded cards?

00:55:29.106 --> 00:55:32.014
How do you buy a pack where there are cards that are already graded?

00:55:32.525 --> 00:55:33.708
Yeah, I'll get you some links out.

00:55:33.728 --> 00:55:34.711
Maybe we'll do another segment.

00:55:34.711 --> 00:55:37.251
I'll kind of dissect that because I think it's kind of neat for all of us.

00:55:37.251 --> 00:55:41.588
So, um, amazon has a couple of places and you have certain dealers that will send you a pack.

00:55:41.588 --> 00:55:44.695
The ones that I'll order, like every other, are graded.

00:55:44.695 --> 00:55:48.393
So they'll send me some graded cards, some of them pretty good, like I have a.

00:55:48.594 --> 00:55:51.286
If you look at this, wimby, this is an eight.

00:55:51.286 --> 00:55:53.889
Let me get a light a little bit better on that one.

00:55:53.889 --> 00:55:59.336
Maybe, yeah, this, maybe, yeah, this is an eight, wimbyama, and I've got two of these.

00:55:59.336 --> 00:56:00.938
I've got an eight and I've got a nine.

00:56:00.938 --> 00:56:04.469
So this one was already graded and it came in that graded pack.

00:56:04.469 --> 00:56:08.887
Then I ordered another one that contains you probably get about 50 cards in that.

00:56:08.887 --> 00:56:14.432
You'll get one graded or two graded cards and then some loose cards, and you go through them and they're they're sorted.

00:56:14.432 --> 00:56:15.695
You do want to be careful, though.

00:56:15.695 --> 00:56:20.900
Sometimes when you go into places, they'll build you a mystery pack and it's a mystery pack not worth anything.

00:56:20.900 --> 00:56:26.565
So some of these you want to be really careful who you order from and make sure you get some return on investment.

00:56:26.565 --> 00:56:40.289
So I pulled Shaq cards, I pulled Pippin cards um that JJ Reddit card that was uh, that was one of out of a mystery pack which was pretty neat, neat.

00:56:40.309 --> 00:56:41.172
So what it can do you never know.

00:56:41.172 --> 00:56:42.900
Yeah, okay, yeah, we'll definitely definitely love to do another show.

00:56:42.900 --> 00:56:44.324
Uh, educate not only ourselves.

00:56:44.324 --> 00:56:46.130
You know audience on that.

00:56:46.130 --> 00:56:48.780
I assume the ratings is 10, the highest rating.

00:56:48.780 --> 00:56:50.144
That is the highest rating.

00:56:50.365 --> 00:56:53.076
Yeah, and those are the ones which really begs.

00:56:53.076 --> 00:56:58.269
If you do get a loose card, like for me, if you come in and look at my collection, they're all in these.

00:56:58.269 --> 00:57:05.469
They're all either in sleeves or they're in a plastic protector and I don't take them out and move them around a lot.

00:57:05.469 --> 00:57:10.047
I take the card and you know I go and just put it in a very special place.

00:57:10.047 --> 00:57:11.954
You also want to make sure there's humidity control.

00:57:11.954 --> 00:57:16.452
So you know, things you don't want to store in your garage, you don't want to put these somewhere and you want to take good care of them.

00:57:16.472 --> 00:57:28.472
They're quite an investment and you see, people have been collecting for years and if you think about Ken Golden as an example, he's a billionaire, he opened up his business in 2012, and he's one of the premier places where you can sell cards.

00:57:28.472 --> 00:57:30.336
One of his recent cards was a one-of-one.

00:57:30.336 --> 00:57:33.588
It was pulled out of a really high-end mystery pack.

00:57:33.588 --> 00:57:48.675
Those are about $50, dollars to buy in on those mystery packs and they pulled one particular one of one card and it went for over three million dollars good, oh man, yeah, talk about, oh man.

00:57:49.115 --> 00:57:59.478
So the mystery packs that you typically get, if you don't, don't mind us asking um, that have like the one graded and the loose cards and all that?

00:57:59.478 --> 00:58:09.090
Um, final question for me would be roughly how many cards are in that pack and what's the ballpark price that you would pay for a mystery pack like that?

00:58:09.833 --> 00:58:13.146
so you get about 50 cards and you get a couple of graded cards.

00:58:13.146 --> 00:58:15.992
Sometimes it varies, um, they run anywhere.

00:58:15.992 --> 00:58:22.952
The one mystery pack was $169 for that mystery pack and then you do get some return on investment.

00:58:22.952 --> 00:58:27.389
When I pulled that PSA 10 Wimby Amma that made it for me.

00:58:27.389 --> 00:58:31.235
That one card for me made that pack.

00:58:31.235 --> 00:58:33.806
And I went back and I was like, okay, that's kind of cool.

00:58:33.806 --> 00:58:38.706
And you see a lot of collectors like I have two Wimby's, one is an eight and one is a nine.

00:58:38.746 --> 00:58:44.367
Some people will sell their eights and keep their nines as that grade goes up and you can trade those.

00:58:44.367 --> 00:58:46.452
You can get mystery packs for $60.

00:58:46.452 --> 00:58:50.298
You just have to look at them and try them out.

00:58:50.298 --> 00:58:52.047
That's what it is, kind of a mystery pack.

00:58:52.047 --> 00:58:53.429
You pull them, you order a couple of them.

00:58:53.429 --> 00:58:57.014
If you get a good pull out of each one of those, it's a pretty reputable company.

00:58:57.014 --> 00:59:05.012
You'll probably order those again and then sometimes they'll put some things in there that they're nice to have but they're just kind of package stuffers.

00:59:05.012 --> 00:59:08.306
But still worth the time and any investment.

00:59:08.588 --> 00:59:14.333
When you get some of these rooks and some of them that are there have been you got to think they didn't just pack these this year.

00:59:14.333 --> 00:59:18.586
They've been sitting around for a while and then they're now cycling them through and they're not.

00:59:18.586 --> 00:59:19.990
They're not popping those packs.

00:59:19.990 --> 00:59:21.695
But first of all, I think it's fun.

00:59:21.695 --> 00:59:23.889
For me it's almost like a discovery.

00:59:23.889 --> 00:59:29.215
It's like, you know, having a wonderful holiday when you're you're going through every other week you've done well at work.

00:59:29.215 --> 00:59:34.371
For me, it's relaxing when I pull those cards, start setting them down and go hey, you know, check this out.

00:59:34.371 --> 00:59:36.436
And it's a way to to be social too.

00:59:36.436 --> 00:59:38.260
Now, you know, being in it for a long time.

00:59:38.260 --> 00:59:41.768
Most of us are introverts, but for me it's nice to sit around and go hey, what'd you pull?

00:59:41.768 --> 00:59:43.833
Oh, man, I got, you know, I got one beyond my.

00:59:43.833 --> 00:59:44.784
Hey, man, I got a Jordan.

00:59:44.784 --> 00:59:46.967
I've even sung the high end mystery packs.

00:59:46.967 --> 00:59:52.976
They've pulled anything like a Michael Jordan Rook worth $350,000 for a $50,000.

00:59:52.976 --> 00:59:58.764
There's some pretty neat things you can do, yeah okay, that's phenomenal.

00:59:58.844 --> 01:00:05.130
Yeah, we'll definitely, definitely have to revisit this topic and, yeah, I'd like to make this a recurring theme where let's do it.

01:00:05.130 --> 01:00:07.521
Let's crack some packs all right, let's do it.

01:00:07.541 --> 01:00:12.954
Let's see where we're learning the lingo man, that's a rob thing, I don't know anybody else cracking pack?

01:00:12.954 --> 01:00:14.445
Okay, put that on your show.

01:00:14.445 --> 01:00:16.951
We're cracking packs and and we'll uh, we'll see what we get.

01:00:16.951 --> 01:00:20.217
And maybe, diego, no pressure, but I want to see a michael jordan rookie card.

01:00:20.217 --> 01:00:21.907
Okay, I'm just sorry, I'll try.

01:00:21.987 --> 01:00:24.813
I'll try I'd love to get one now enjoyed it.

01:00:24.853 --> 01:00:26.818
Thanks for having me hey, thank you.

01:00:26.898 --> 01:00:29.108
Thank you, we'll see you soon, my man take care.

01:00:29.409 --> 01:00:32.333
All right, bye.

01:00:32.333 --> 01:00:37.815
Awesome man rob, he is the guy, uh, so we so appreciate having him on.

01:00:37.815 --> 01:00:46.106
So we, we made, we made a trip we're going to uh drop here in a second but made a trip to our local uh car store in preparation for this segment.

01:00:46.106 --> 01:00:47.809
So we got a few things.

01:00:47.809 --> 01:00:52.005
So don't really have no idea what the grades are in any of that.

01:00:52.005 --> 01:00:56.713
So we'll get with Rob and and, uh, you know, officially have our you know cards graded, man.

01:00:56.713 --> 01:01:05.317
But just to show some of what I pulled, actually I'm going to send this one to our guy Josh.

01:01:05.317 --> 01:01:07.733
I know he always watches us live.

01:01:07.733 --> 01:01:09.713
I know we had a cookout today, could make it.

01:01:09.713 --> 01:01:17.092
But, josh, man, you're from Cleveland and I know you were sweating because you didn't know if Mitchell was going to resign.

01:01:17.092 --> 01:01:19.873
So, my man, I'm going to mail this one to you.

01:01:20.324 --> 01:01:21.329
So this one's for you.

01:01:21.329 --> 01:01:22.630
We got that one.

01:01:22.630 --> 01:01:28.454
And then, hey, check this out, I pulled the Klay Thompson.

01:01:28.454 --> 01:01:33.074
So a Klay Thompson Warrior.

01:01:33.074 --> 01:01:35.833
So it was the last season with the Warriors, so I got this.

01:01:35.833 --> 01:01:40.331
I'm going to hold on to this one here and let's see the other one.

01:01:40.331 --> 01:01:42.625
I think it's in yours.

01:01:42.625 --> 01:01:43.528
I put Steph.

01:01:43.528 --> 01:01:49.532
We pulled Steph, Steph is in yours and oh this one's interesting.

01:01:53.150 --> 01:01:55.077
This is an Aaron Rodgers.

01:01:55.077 --> 01:01:57.300
Let me try to make this bigger.

01:01:57.300 --> 01:01:57.373
Hold on one second, aaron Rodgers.

01:01:57.373 --> 01:01:58.527
Let me try to make this bigger.

01:01:58.527 --> 01:02:01.335
Hold on one second.

01:02:01.335 --> 01:02:09.853
Aaron Rodgers, from this past season, and I'm not sure if this is anything special or not, but we'll have to find out about that.

01:02:09.853 --> 01:02:10.775
Yeah, yeah.

01:02:11.525 --> 01:02:13.632
Pretty rare, because he only played three snaps.

01:02:13.952 --> 01:02:16.452
Yeah, yeah, it was the three snap season.

01:02:16.452 --> 01:02:19.347
So I'd imagine imagine you know you either want you.

01:02:19.347 --> 01:02:27.195
If you pull someone for a particular year, you either want it to be an amazing season or you want it to be something controversial, like that where he played three snaps.

01:02:27.195 --> 01:02:29.248
Yeah, that's rare, we'll see.

01:02:29.248 --> 01:02:30.851
Yeah, it's pretty, pretty rare.

01:02:30.851 --> 01:02:32.815
But uh, man, what did uh?

01:02:32.815 --> 01:02:33.838
What did you pull?

01:02:34.527 --> 01:02:36.713
but you already showed you the staff.

01:02:36.713 --> 01:02:37.614
My lights in's in the way.

01:02:37.614 --> 01:02:42.331
But yeah, steph, I got my guy Bryce, my guy Bryce Young.

01:02:42.331 --> 01:02:44.748
I'm definitely holding out to that because I'm a Panther fan.

01:02:44.748 --> 01:02:49.719
Joker, joker, sga.

01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:53.114
This is like a fairly special card Ant.

01:02:53.114 --> 01:02:56.934
I got Ant-Man who did you pull?

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Porzingis.

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Jalenalen brown, a bunch of guys.

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So pretty good, nice, nice, all right, sounds good, man, well, yeah, yeah, some good, good things that you pulled there.

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The jalen brown, the bryce uh, now bryce is gonna have to turn it around and do something, so we'll see oh, he will we know that's your guy.

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So yeah, we know you're always repping carolina panthers, yeah it'll be good, cool, cool.

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All right, man.

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Well, hey, we've got uh a lot to uh get into for the rest of this weekend, so we're gonna let you go, let everybody else go, but thanks for checking us out.

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As always, we appreciate the love and support.

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A lot of big things coming up next week.

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We will be back 7 pm Eastern on Saturday, where we are moving into football, moving away from basketball for a while, and we're going to give you our top fantasy football receivers.

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We're kicking off our league and it's going to be great, so we're going to start with wide receivers.

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Are you ready for that?

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Oh yeah, I'm ready for that, yeah.

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It's my time.

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It's going to be fun.

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We'll have a cheat sheets that you could download for your drafts.

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Uh, we're going to give you top 30 rankings that you can use.

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Uh, and ours are slightly different from what you get from ESPN and all the other other places.

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Ours are unique.

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They're our own custom uh cheat codes, so we're going to be generating all that.

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So I'm really excited for you guys to to uh get and check that out.

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All right, so thanks for the love and support.

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Thank you, uh, have you enjoyed the show, mom dukes?

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And uh, hey, man.

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And thanks for uh, mr lou thompson, the professor from joining us from dallas.

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Uh, good luck to the mavs.

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And uh, hey, who knows jerry?

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Uh, jerry thompson may come back and make an appearance at some point, depending on how the Mavs do it.

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He may make an appearance for football.

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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I'm sure he will.

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I'm sure he'll make an appearance at some point.

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All right, man, Were you ready to get on out of here?

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Yeah, ready to get out of here, man.

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All right, you ready to eat some prime barbecue?

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm definitely ready for that Prime barbecue.

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Man is not much better man Prime barbecue at Nightdale.

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So we got to, we got to make a stop there at least once every month or so, and we've made that stop.

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So that's on deck.

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So we're going to tear some of that up.

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Y'all, enjoy the rest of your July 4th weekend.

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We'll see you later.

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Thanks again, rob, for joining us, and we'll be back next week with Pick'em Pros.

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We're out, we're out, thank you.

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